pianojames111 Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 So, just kidding on the jimmy buffett thing. there used to be bumper stickers saying "Jimmy Buffett for President". Just thought i would add it on for fun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandiloquence Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 Hmm, I won't vote because I'm still having trouble deciding between Clinton and Obama. But I can't vote anyway, so I guess it doesn't really matter... Oh, in case you haven't heard yet, Clinton won Pennsylvania. Tomorrow should be interesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pianojames111 Posted April 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 Hmm, I won't vote because I'm still having trouble deciding between Clinton and Obama. But I can't vote anyway, so I guess it doesn't really matter...Oh, in case you haven't heard yet, Clinton won Pennsylvania. Tomorrow should be interesting. yeah, i am watching it on TV. Rush Limbaugh's "Operation Chaos" is working perfectly. Woo Hoo. I get a kick out of that. He is exploiting their own foolish rule against them and it does so much harm to the democratic party. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
princessnIB Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 So, just kidding on the jimmy buffett thing. there used to be bumper stickers saying "Jimmy Buffett for President". Just thought i would add it on for fun.yeah i know my dad has one.... so lame but he has good music.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dragonb111 Posted July 19, 2008 Report Share Posted July 19, 2008 Mccain all the way. Clinton can't handle stress at all and has a terrible plan for our economy. Obama is the same, but has a terrible wife and a loonatic for a pastor. Mccain is the only one left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deissi Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 Mccain all the way. Clinton can't handle stress at all and has a terrible plan for our economy. Obama is the same, but has a terrible wife and a loonatic for a pastor. Mccain is the only one left.Umm let's see, last time I checked, you guys were getting a new president for the country, not a pastor?? I really don't see how the pastor relates to Obama's presidency... Maybe it's a good thing you can't vote just yet. Needless to say, I'm European so I like Obama. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
missrunway Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 i would have voted for hillary because i feel that men act way to quickly and i think the USA needs a women's touch to help them out because they currently have a pretty bad rep because of the war and all of Bush's stupid acts, anyways since she dropped out, i would go for obama Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindpet Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 I'm voting absentee since I'm abroad. It will definitely be Obama though I would've voted for an Obama-Hillary hybrid mostly because America needs change right now and nothing would top a black president with a vagina. I seriously doubt McCain will win, he's having an arduous time disassociating himself from Bush.Right now America is laying down kicking and coughing up blood. Republicans will just keep on beating the poor sucker so I'd be shocked if McCain won. Then again, I was royally surprised when Bush won his second term...btw, I don't like politics much at all. I actually would've voted for Ron Paul because it's somehow disconcerting that the richest country in the world does not have universal health care - one of the reasons I won't live in the states for the foreseeable future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Shiver Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 I actually would've voted for Ron Paul because it's somehow disconcerting that the richest country in the world does not have universal health care - one of the reasons I won't live in the states for the foreseeable future.If you're a proponent of universal health care, then why would that cause you to vote for Ron Paul? He believes in a private health care system, and private just-about-everything-else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplestarfish Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 This is a real coin toss for me. McCain is a republican which is a huge setback at this time. However, he is a lot more experienced and he knows what he is doing. Obama, on the other hand is still fairly new to the political scene and may be seen as naive and inexperienced. In my point of view, if americans vote for McCain- they know what they are getting and they know ahead of time if their getting what they want or otherwise. If they vote for Obama, they may get what they want and he may liberate the country and end the war in Iraq- however it is also possible that he will not be able to do that and that he will only disappoint the people. With Obama, they do not know what they're getting because they do not have enough history to base what he is going to do when pressed on certain issues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennisalex833 Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 Obama. A very Far sighted person, he has all that takes to help americaregain its past glory,lost during the tenure of Bush!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pianojames111 Posted July 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 Umm let's see, last time I checked, you guys were getting a new president for the country, not a pastor?? I really don't see how the pastor relates to Obama's presidency... Maybe it's a good thing you can't vote just yet. Needless to say, I'm European so I like Obama.the pastor himself does not relate to his presidency but if obama has stayed with that nut and listened to him for 20 years that we can reasonably conclude that he (obama) supports the pastor and all of his "God Damn Americans" ways. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Shiver Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 I find it pretty rich that people criticize Obama for his pastor while completely ignoring the pastors McCain has affiliated with.Never underestimate the influence of the media on people's thinking.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hagee#Controversial_Viewshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_Parsley#M...008_Endorsement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deissi Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 the pastor himself does not relate to his presidency but if obama has stayed with that nut and listened to him for 20 years that we can reasonably conclude that he (obama) supports the pastor and all of his "God Damn Americans" ways.This is something I truly fail to comprehend in the American culture. Shouldn't every man be judged for HIS actions, not someone else's, be it their mother, brother, wife or pastor. Were it Obama's wife giving out comments like these I could understand why it would be somewhat peculiar, but it's not even someone in his inner family... And I don't see any possible way of reasonably concluding that these statements would have anything to do with Barack Obama. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pianojames111 Posted July 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 This is something I truly fail to comprehend in the American culture. Shouldn't every man be judged for HIS actions, not someone else's, be it their mother, brother, wife or pastor. Were it Obama's wife giving out comments like these I could understand why it would be somewhat peculiar, but it's not even someone in his inner family... And I don't see any possible way of reasonably concluding that these statements would have anything to do with Barack Obama.it is because he regularly associates himself with them. Take pastor wright... priests are somewhat of guides for the worshippers. When obama regularly goes to church listening to him and also agreeing with him shows what obama believes and supports. it is true, every man should be judged by their own actions. but obama continually supporting rev. wright is a direct reflection of what he (obama) believes, supports, and how he would act as president. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerox Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 i would vote Obama, just for the simple reason that he is the best thing for the world and the US in my opinion. There are many problems in the US (thank you bush...) which i think Obama is more likely to solve.However, i would still rather have seen hillary as she is the more experienced democrate... but well **** happends... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dragonb111 Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 Umm let's see, last time I checked, you guys were getting a new president for the country, not a pastor?? I really don't see how the pastor relates to Obama's presidency... Maybe it's a good thing you can't vote just yet. Needless to say, I'm European so I like Obama.I'm not saying that his pastor is everything, but I do believe that the people that he "hangs" out with tell you about his personality. That's what I am told. And it's not just that. It's also his economy plan I'm talking about.i would vote Obama, just for the simple reason that he is the best thing for the world and the US in my opinion. There are many problems in the US (thank you bush...) which i think Obama is more likely to solve.However, i would still rather have seen hillary as she is the more experienced democrate... but well **** happends...Could you give me an example about Obama solving more problems? And I don't believe Hillary would've done much better. She's not ready for presidency yet. I think that she's gonna break down too easily. That's just my opinion though. Tell me what you think of it.I find it pretty rich that people criticize Obama for his pastor while completely ignoring the pastors McCain has affiliated with.Never underestimate the influence of the media on people's thinking.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hagee#Controversial_Viewshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_Parsley#M...008_EndorsementVery good point...just curious (I haven't really cared about the election recently), did McCain have them speak for him in any way? I don't know I'm just asking... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Shiver Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 (edited) Probably not. But Obama didn't have Wright speak for him either, so why should Obama suffer for what Wright said? Edited July 30, 2008 by Mr. Shiver Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dragonb111 Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 Probably not. But Obama didn't have Wright speak for him either, so why should Obama suffer for what Wright said?He kinda had him talk. Obama had to face the press for what his pastor said about "God D*mn America". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Shiver Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 (edited) Obama had to face the press for what his pastor said about "God D*mn America".All that proves is that Obama was reluctant to cut off all ties until he had no choice. Until then, he expressed disapproval only of the comments Wright made, not the person himself (probably so as not to lose support from the Black Church). I still don't see how Wright was speaking for Obama any more than Hagee's and Parsley's nonsense is representative of McCain. Edited July 31, 2008 by Mr. Shiver Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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