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he has no concrete plans. just change. change. change. its ridiculous. all he will change is the tax rate on households that make more than 100G a year and then how much of that is put into welfare programs for the lazy. The war would be a disaster, and we would be outta there faster than the french...

EXACTLY!

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he has no concrete plans. just change. change. change. its ridiculous. all he will change is the tax rate on households that make more than 100G a year and then how much of that is put into welfare programs for the lazy. The war would be a disaster, and we would be outta there faster than the french...

Ah, good old conservative American politics. Did the thought ever occur to you that not all people with low income or no job are lazy? That's a huge generalization right there. Don't you think you should at least give some chance for the poor to rise from poverty, instead of just making the rich even richer? I'd say that European socialism is working proof of how this is beneficial to society, America could try it too. However, I must say that I don't like the protectionist thoughts that American Democrats seem to have. They fail to see that opening trade doors would in the long run be beneficial to the country, and removing huge subsidies from agriculture (we're guilty of this too in the EU) is also inevitable. That's one thing the Republicans are better at.

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SO COOL!!! :ninja: but i am hoping that Obama wins, the gap between the rich and the poor shouldn't increase in the way that it has during the bush administration. And i generallt think that Obama can come with some well needed change. America needs to change... or well, we soon have china as a world power instead (and i am srry, but i don't trust the chinese doing that in a resposible way, not that the americans do it that good but trust them more then the chinese to do it slightly right)

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You trust the Chinese, but not the government is what you mean. :ninja:

I liked both Obama and Hillary as they bring a change to the traditional candidates that run for president (think old, rich, white men). And McCain is just that... a traditional candidate with traditional ideas. If an idea hasn't worked time and time again, what makes you think it'll work this time?

Also, why does McCain have so many ads centering around Obama? Is this the norm? I know there's that

ad and The One ad about Obama being Neo/Moses.
are about himself...

Edit: Watched those ads again. All I could think about while watching those was OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA. There's absolutely nothing about McCain (or his future "policies") other than "I'm John McCain and I approve this message". It's also shocking to know that

has more content than McCain. :0 Edited by moneyfaery
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Edit: Watched those ads again. All I could think about while watching those was OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA. There's absolutely nothing about McCain (or his future "policies") other than "I'm John McCain and I approve this message". It's also shocking to know that
has more content than McCain. :0

I've noticed the same anomaly as you have! Though I have noted that he does have a few ads featuring himself as well, but they're all about how he was a war hero. Not a single one about how he'll change America.

And Xerox - in light of recent events in Georgia, don't you feel it's rather Russia as a world power we should fear than China?

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Georgia occupies its dissident state South Ossetia, which is supported by Russia. Russia retaliates by invading Georgia. The US sides with Georgia because Georgia is a pawn in USA's ideological tug of war with Russia, and after all is said and done, South Ossetia is even more of a pawn and still doesn't get the independence from Georgia or Russia that it wants.

I'm having trouble understanding how are Russia's actions any more frightening than America's interventionist policies all around the world.

As for the presedential election, Ralph Nader is once again the voice of reason who will ultimately be made the third-party scapegoat for whatever happens between the Republocrats.

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I'm having trouble understanding how are Russia's actions any more frightening than America's interventionist policies all around the world

AFAIK, American rhetoric hasn't included talk about a new cold war so far... Maybe it's just because we've been attacked by Russia several times in the past that makes me worried. It's incredible that Mr. Medvedev said that "Russia or the Soviet Union have never been the attacking side".

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Brainwashed by the mass media.

How so? It is the same principle with Iraq.

Look, in foreign policy, a country's military run the show, and the military don't care abut democracy or ideals. They care about making their nation the strongest strategically, so Russia are simply applying themselves in the way that the West have been able to in the past.

It's worrying, but not unexpected.

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Haha well yeah we should be worried about russia, but they do not have the economic advantage that china will have if they continue to grow with this rate. The russian fleet still is locked away, the only real danger I see so far is that they got nukes... and a bad temper :blum: but well so do the chinese.

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the whole america thing gets on my nerves. ever since i found that they throw left over wheat- still edible- into the sea... ;)

well... and although i like obama because he is dark skinned (NOT being racist) and i personally think that it is a great recognition of other cultures in american political history... i'm abit put off by the time and the amount of money that they've spent on it...

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When I look at him I see change. A new milestone in American History.

Obama being elected as President represents how far the world has come, from the 1950s (Black Civil Rights), and it gives us all hope for the future, that racism will be wiped off the face of the Earth, for good.

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What amazes me about US politics is that there are only two parties! For a country of its size and significance, and for a country that is supposed to be a great democracy, there is hardly a wealth of choice and different political views. It's a choice between one guy or another. With a population that size surely two parties can't accurately represent all the different viewpoints and interests of the people. It could be argued that it is similar in other countries with two main parties dominating politics but at least there are normally other, reasonably credible options. Both parties are hardly worlds apart either in that they are both fairly central and US politics generally leans a bit to the right in comparison to the rest of the world. (From what I have observed anyway.) I know that there are differences of opinion and different viewpoints within the parties, but at the end of the day they are all generally Democrat or Republican. Now I'm not American, and I only have an outside view, so maybe I'm very wrong, but that's just what strikes me about US politics.

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From what I've seen and heard about Obama, this is what I think:

He was really popular during election time and I think a lot of people just voted for him because everyone else was! A lot of people said that the country would see 'remarkable change' and were basically saying that racism would end (this may be a bit exaggerated lol)if a black person was elected as president. He was then elected, and so many people were so happy after this and hailed a 'new beginning for America'. However I haven't seen Obama make extremely significant changes yet. I think it was a lot of hype. Obama is a great speaker though, and this helped him a LOT.

Not saying he won't be a great president, it's just that he hasn't really lived up to all the hype about him (imo).

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I think that the only negative thing people can say of him is that all he represents is change and that he has not shown any real progress.

However, we must take into consideration the large, intricate web that the previous government's have spun and the time and effort it will take to unravel the mess that's been created. He is iconic, charasmatic leader that has the innate ability to persuade and spurr people into action. As suggested by the slogan, he gives people the idea that they aren't helpless in the face of politics, that they have the power to make change. Isn't that what a leader should be doing?

And it's not his fault that there is so much hype about him. He just used it to his advantage. Maybe if America didn't continually oppress minorities, it would be such a feat that a black man became President, would it?

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