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Med: Undergraduate or Postgraduate Degree?


ecieee

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So, I live in QLD and am keen to get into Med (hopefully).

I really want to move interstate because I'm over qld

but I realised that unis like usyd or umelb only offer Med as a postgraduate degree.

This would mean that i would have to get into biomed and sit a gamsat to gain entrance into med.

But if I stay in qld, I can go to UQ where there is actually an undergraduate course - although they do 2 years of science first.

I'm really unsure whether i should stick to UQ, save time and less effort (don't have to do gamsat!)

or be experimental and choose to work my way around - postgraduate course.

What do you guys think? Undergraduate course + save time? or Prestigious uni + extra couple of years + gamsat?

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I think that you need to differentiate between Europe and Australia for medical admissions, because unlike Europe, in Aus the norm is to do medicine post-grad rather than undergrad. Undergrad medicine is extremely competitive and if entry to UQ is anything like UNSW in NSW then you will probably need at least 42 or 43 in the IB, alongside a strong UMAT and interview to have any chance, so it could be the case that it is in fact more simple to enter at post-grad.

UQ is still a really good uni so I wouldn't really worry about prestige, of course i'm biased towards USyd because I go there but I personally think that post-grad medicine is a much better option than undergraduate medicine plus the medicine building at USyd is soooo nice (think oxbridge-style building)

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Okay, so this has got nothing to do with what you're asking about, but are you sure you can get into med without biology HL? Because as far as I know Biology HL is a necessary subject to get into med school. Even if they accept that, your chances will be really low in front of the other students with Bio & Chem HL.You are keen to get into med school, I am pretty sure you're capable of doing Biology HL.

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Okay, so this has got nothing to do with what you're asking about, but are you sure you can get into med without biology HL? Because as far as I know Biology HL is a necessary subject to get into med school. Even if they accept that, your chances will be really low in front of the other students with Bio & Chem HL.You are keen to get into med school, I am pretty sure you're capable of doing Biology HL.

ecieee is doing HL Biology.

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Australian uni's don't have subject specific requirements, you used to have to do Chem to get into med but I think they changed that.

yeah i'm doing chem and bio at higher level, and sciences are one of my strengths so i think i can score 7s for both.

Save time. Think, in Europe they are more awesome, they become doctors quicker, I should do the same.

I would love to study in a different country -especially some where like Europe!

It's fascinating!

But I think that's going to be hard because I don't really speak any other language than Korean and English,

and I think I'll have to pay heaps as an overseas student even if I get in to the courses.

But, just out of curiosity, what are some really prestigious (and good too) unis for med in Europe?

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If you are certain you want to go into medicine, I would go for undergraduate. Medicine already takes a ling time to get through uni so you don't really want to extend it. Even if you apply, because it is so competitive you might sill not get in so you might as well try. Also, there are a few other unis around Australia that offer undergraduate medicine. If you really want to move inter-state there is Monash in Melbourne or there is also James Cook University up in Townsville, both of which are pretty good.

Last thing, on the whole yay or nay to HL Bio for medicine in Australia, the only subject requirement I have seen are Maths and Chem SL. Unis don't really care after that what subjects you do as long at you get a high enough, which for undergraduate medicine, is high.

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As far as I am aware, Sydney Undergraduate medicine doesnt require the UMAT.. but it does require a 99.95. Thats the only way to get into undergraduate medicine at Sydney. Postrgraduate doesnt take any longer, but you have to sit the GAMSAT after three years of your degree.

I am also in the IB, in AUS, looking to do Medicine interstate. As far as I'm concerned, Sydney looks the best! Thats just my opinion. Their websites are really helpfuyl.

The following is directly from the Sydney Uni website:

Combined Science-Medicine Program

Length: 7FT

ATAR: Expected to be 99.95 for 2011 entry.

Major studies: As listed for the BSc(Adv) or BMedSc and Medicine.

Assumed knowledge: Mathematics or HSC Mathematics Extension 1. Other assumed knowledge depends on Science degree chosen (BSc (Advanced) or BMedSc).

Refer to B Science (Advanced) or B Medical Science. All students in the Science/Medicine program must take some units of study in mathematics.

It takes 7 years undergraduate for med, and 7 years postgraduate.

And btw, there are no prerequisites for medicine. The only prerequisites are for Advanced Science (Maths SL and another science) and MedScience (Maths, Chem, and Bio or Physics)

Good luck!!

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I went to the open day at Monash University on the weekend, and the info session was way more discouraging than encouraging in my opinion. They basically said, 2400 people apply, there are 250 or so places, best of luck to you all. lol. It made post grad medicine look mighty attractive.

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Definitely aim to save time. The time required to undertake med + residency + specialisation is long enough as is without adding in an undergrad, as well. Consider Monash, it's bloody hard to get in to, but it's generally considered UniMelb's equal or superior in terms of med school; due to the level of great students applying there and not even considering waiting till their grad degree to do Med.

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