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What is the difference between HL, SL, Studies? Which to take?

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Yup cabso is right...you are truly good at this.!!......I also had a question for you...Becuase I moved a few American schools... and i was never good at maths..actually is the subject i hate coz im really bad at it...but i was wondering if you could still get your IB diploma if you take the lowest Math class.which is Math SL I bet...even tough it was even more confusing with the amercan formula that had a bigger varitey of levels including calculus...and all of that....

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There are 4 levels of Maths:

Maths Studies SL

Maths SL

Maths HL

Further Maths SL

Further Maths as we said can only taken along side another maths subject. The easiest level is Maths Studies. You definitely will still get your diploma with Maths Studies (because otherwise they wouldn't offer it as a subject) as long as you get the passing grades and have the required 3 HL and 3 SL subjects and completed CAS, TOK and EE.

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Can I just jump in here and say that you should keep your uni course in mind before taking Math Studies as some of them don't accept studies as a valid maths subject. Math SL would always be better methinks

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Can I just jump in here and say that you should keep your uni course in mind before taking Math Studies as some of them don't accept studies as a valid maths subject. Math SL would always be better methinks

yea but if Oxbridge are fine with studies I doubt any other Uni would care, unless you're going into some scientific or math related field. If you're going for social sciences then meh just take studies...

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math sl is gud enough to get through high school, but uni expects Math HL or Further Studies HL

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Er...what are you talkign about?

There's no such thing as Further Studies HL.

There's Further Maths SL. That's the highest you can go.

And Maths SL isn't too bad (Maths Methods). It's half of the HL syllabus.

I think you're confusing it with Maths Studies. :lol:

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no uni does not expect HL and further maths ;) mine would've been fine with me taking studies! but I did methods anyway...

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i've been uni hunting all summer and from what i saw the most UK universitys ask for is math SL, however most so require sl at least, so its the safer choice. i also know that german universities ask for a minimum of math sl.

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I'm doing math studies SL... basically because my teacher insisted it was the right level for me. yeah... i'm really not good at maths...

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Ok from the english system point of view (sorry for those not in the english education system!)

Maths Studies is approximately equal in standard to GCSE Higher Level Maths (if not just beyond)

Maths SL is at a level between AS Maths and Maths A2.

Maths HL is slightly beyond Maths A2 but not as hard as Further Maths A Level, although it contains some topics from FM.

Further Maths SL is equivalent to Further Maths A level (!)

Personally, I am taking Maths HL and it is quite challenging, a big jump from GCSE Higher but nonetheless its interesting!

If you have done GCSE, what you take depends on what grade you got and your interest in Maths.

Dont go for Maths HL or above if you havent got an A* at GSCE or an A with a REAL passion for Maths!

Just my personal opinion!

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You can also do HL Maths for the first year and then drop down into SL. All the people who did this at my school have gotten very near or 100% on tests (the questions taken from past exams), and one of them has been to 4 maths classes all year and is on 100% for all test and portfolios this year, and that is an awefully large amount of classes missed considering we start our school year in Febuary. But the catch is that you have to be able to keep up with HL in IB1.

In australia no uni course needs HL Maths. And the only courses that need SL are Commerce-ishes and Science-nesses

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You can also do HL Maths for the first year and then drop down into SL. All the people who did this at my school have gotten very near or 100% on tests (the questions taken from past exams), and one of them has been to 4 maths classes all year and is on 100% for all test and portfolios this year, and that is an awefully large amount of classes missed considering we start our school year in Febuary. But the catch is that you have to be able to keep up with HL in IB1.

In australia no uni course needs HL Maths. And the only courses that need SL are Commerce-ishes and Science-nesses

yea I did that, and it did really help for methods on my 2nd year. but you're right it was painful trying to keep up with the HL material :lol: I didn't get higher than a 4 on it :D

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In Australia:

If you want to take Engineering, you need SL *at least*

Some Teaching courses will not accept Studies, some will.

Commerce and Economics courses require SL.

Some Business courses require SL.

Most IT and Programming courses ask for SL.

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If you want to go into the sciences in canada at least you would need a SL, probably the same everywhere else.

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yeah most universities in America want Math 2 SL for engineering, but then you have to take some supplement math depending on which major you take. Math HL or Further HL covers a lot of the stuff needed in uni level, but some people say they still have to take extra courses in college.

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it really was ahuge disadvantage for me to come from an american school before doing the IB. anyway, i take Maths SL Methods... really now, maths studies may be easier but why slack off in IB? right?

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I'm taking Math Studies because:

a) I'm hideous at Math

and,

B) I'm not planning on continuing on with science/math once I get to university.

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I decided to change from Standard to Studies in a moment of brilliance. I cut out all engineering (and fortunately accounting) options for my tertiary studies, but I opened myself to many others. I'm not feeling too upset about the loss - I was floundering in a "sea of choices" where as now I know exactly what I want to do.

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from personal experience, i can say that the difference between SL and HL is not that big, though most of u will find Studies really easy

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Yup cabso is right...you are truly good at this.!!......I also had a question for you...Becuase I moved a few American schools... and i was never good at maths..actually is the subject i hate coz im really bad at it...but i was wondering if you could still get your IB diploma if you take the lowest Math class.which is Math SL I bet...even tough it was even more confusing with the amercan formula that had a bigger varitey of levels including calculus...and all of that....

I couldnt make up my mind which maths course to take either and talked a LOT with my college councellor.

After telling her what I want to do, and what sort of unis I was interested in, she told me that, maths hl is one of those subjects whereby the level is deffinetly different. what i mean is, others subjects like english, history , and geogrpahy for isntance is more about - how many hours u spend in class, or howmany topics you cover. (some may disagree) but in the case of maths, the level is completely different. higher level, is much more advanced than standard. she told me that unless you want to be some sort of engineer or architect etc, there is no need to take such demanding course.

and in my case (in MY case), she told me that if i chose math methods, my chances of getting accepted to the unis im intersted in , would be very slim.

so thats why i take the middle level maths class. (math sl) and im doing perfectly fine.

if you cant make up your mind i suggest consulting you

-math teacher (what does he/she think you can handle?)

- college counceller (is it necessary for you to take hl? etc)

- people who took ib (did they take hl - and suffered? etc)

hope u make the right choice!

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... Math Methods? Isn't that IB Mathematics SL?

And yes - Studies is great - year 9 and 10 math once again!

And... yes again - if you don't need math for college, why bother?

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If you are posting from an American school, i can give a basic comparison to American (or at least Californian...) math levels

IB math 1 (studies) - standard level, it's about equal to a pre-calculus class, though it covers a wider variety of topics (eg statitistics) it doesnt tend to go into calculus

IB math 2 (methods) - standard level, this would be on a similar level to AP calculus AB. it goes into some calculus (not as much as AP) and many other IB standards (again, like statistics). a lot of people i know are taking a mix of AP calc and IB 2 over these two years

IB math 3/4 - Higher level (2 years) this is at a level beyond AP calculus AB. At my school, we are required to have passed the AP calc test with either a 4 or a 5 (and i wouldnt recommend taking this class without that kind of background). This is about at the level of BC calculus in some ways, however it goes much beyond it (into linear algebra and advanced stats, differential equations, etc) for my class, the BC calc test is required of first year HL students on the side.

IB math further level - standard level, this is an option of the HL course. it is a standard level test that can be taken in addition to or instead of the HL test. I'm not entirely sure what it entails, but i believe it involves extra, individual study and well...further level math than HL

something else to note is that I/As are very similar in 2 and 3/4. though i dont really know yet

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from personal experience, i can say that the difference between SL and HL is not that big, though most of u will find Studies really easy

Really? That's not what I've heard at all. Apparently Maths has the greatest difference between HL and SL out of all the subjects. :wub:

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i think sciences also have a greater difference between HL and SL . im takin HL math .. its been OK so far

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