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Questions about studying Medicine in the UK?

The age requirements on some of the university websites caught my attention eg. Imperial, King's will only accept 18+ on first day of course in October, which limits younger people's chances of applying to the very best universities, who are just a few months younger and possible more mature than half of the students who are above the minimum required age.

Do you know any background behind this?

Any stretching the requirement?

Or any other unis with this strict rule

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Yeah, its a legal thing, not a maturity thing. You must be over 18.

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Avan how does that have anything to do with anything?

Dandoon, email the universities if you want they may have more reasoning behind it.

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Then how come the number one university for medicine ( Oxford) doesn't care about your age as long as you show MATURITY as it clearly said on the website!!

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Then how come the number one university for medicine ( Oxford) doesn't care about your age as long as you show MATURITY as it clearly said on the website!!

Sorry Mr I know everything about medical schools. You clearly aren't showing any if you can't be bothered to email the university and find out straight from them are you?

Plus nearly every medical school is great they just teach in different ways. When it comes to medicine please get rid of the 'oxbridge is the best ever!!' because the competition for medical schools is extremely high.

Furthermore, what's the point of getting angry at someone who's trying to help you?

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I'm not angry lol, im sorry.. I was just a little dissapointed as some of the unis i wished to apply to are now out of the question :(

A thousand appologies..

I agree, and as long as you graduate as a doctor with same degree.. any university will do !

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I am not personally aware of the exact details re: what the exact legal obstacles are, but bearing in mind that you will be working with children and vulnerable adults (Safeguarding Children - bearing in mind that up to the age of 18 you yourself are considered a 'vulnerable adult/child') and handling human tissues (Human Tissues Act). Both of these are strictly regulated, and I suspect that it is one (or both) of these two, or indeed a similar type of issue which prevents them accepting under-18s. Alongside the simple fact that you do have to display emotional and intellectual maturity to enter the course. Some under-18s will be mature enough but many will not - indeed some 18 year olds are told to take gap years to get a bit more life experience under their belts before being allowed to undertake the course. This isn't just for Medicine either - if you're immature, you're not going to be able to handle it and conduct yourself properly! However maturity (whilst essential) is not the reason for the age barrier.

Before the age of 18 you are considered a child and the University has to be extra-responsible for you as they have to act as your 'carer' to replace your parents in many ways up until your birthday when you are legally considered an adult. Anybody applying to University before they're 18 has to jump through extra hoops - Medicine is one of the few courses where you legally cannot complete aspects of the course before you're an adult.

If Oxford really will allow under-aged students to enter the course, then they must have altered their course to have no clinical or anatomical (in the sense of dissection) elements for at least the first year, or allow you to somehow exempt yourself from certain aspects and complete them later.

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Damn, and I was hoping to get in. However, I'll have just turned 17 two months prior finishing my ib exams. Do you know which univarisites accept underage students at all?

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The medical school of Edinburgh University accepts deferred entry applications from UK students who would like to take a gap year, provided that it is for some educational activity. This does not apply to overseas applicants, though.

But then in Scotland up till 1929 a girl could legally marry at age 12, and a boy at 14. Today the minimum age is 16, but (unlike England) parental consent is not required at that age.

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The medical school of Edinburgh University accepts deferred entry applications from UK students who would like to take a gap year, provided that it is for some educational activity. This does not apply to overseas applicants, though.

But then in Scotland up till 1929 a girl could legally marry at age 12, and a boy at 14. Today the minimum age is 16, but (unlike England) parental consent is not required at that age.

Almost all medical schools that I know of (in England at least) accept deferred entry. However, they are going to interview you. Often they request that individuals defer even if they're old enough on the basis that they do not seem sufficiently mature in their interview. It would therefore be significantly more advantageous to wait a year instead of deferring. This will have the same effect in terms of when you go to University but you will be:

A) more mature in the interview

B) able to talk about and make a big deal out of what you did in your gap year

C) best of all already have your grades to apply with, which is infinitely preferred as they're not having to take a risk on you for potentially not meeting your predictions.

So overall I would advise anybody to take a gap year and then apply rather than apply a year early and have to defer, given the advantages the extra year will bring - and that the outcome will be the same! Alternatively you could use it to apply twice - once before and see if you can get in on deferred entry and once the next year in case you don't get in the first year.

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I'm applying for medicine in the UK, and I take HL chem and SL bio. Although all the universities I'm applying to do not require HL bio and are okay with SL bio, do you think that they would favour HL bio over SL bio?

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I'm applying for medicine in the UK, and I take HL chem and SL bio. Although all the universities I'm applying to do not require HL bio and are okay with SL bio, do you think that they would favour HL bio over SL bio?

Personally I think it would be beneficial to you if you've done HL rather than SL Biology. However, if the Universities haven't specified that they want HL and not SL Biology then I doubt it'll matter too much to them if you're doing SL. I mean, I do know people who got in having not done Biology at all, although admittedly this was for A Level :P As said in the above thread, Biology is a subject which is required to different degrees as a relatively recent thing and it remains largely optional.

Having said that, big parts of the HL Biology syllabus may be useful when you get to Medical school. Respiration, the reproduction topics, further human physiology etc. are interesting and handy because you'll need to know all of that stuff. Having a basic idea of how it all works will help, and most of your peers will have taken Biology. So you just save yourself work later. Then again if your exams are in May 2014 it's too late to switch to HL really or you'll sink yourself with work now, so I'd chill out and just stick with what you've got. You can catch up on all that stuff later. The thing is, at school they'll coach you through respiration and dedicate hours of explanation to it, whereas at medical school it'll form a brief glimpse of a diagram on a slide for about 5 minutes and you'll be expected to understand it yourself, so that's why it's worth making the most of stuff you get to do very thoroughly and slowly at school. In my opinion!

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Yup, it's definitely too late to switch. But perhaps I could take additional lessons after IB, if I get into med school, just so that I can catch up. Although I doubt that I would want to study after I finish my exams :P but I'll see anyways. Thank you so much!


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Hi. I have a question about work experience and medical voluntary service. Does anyone know any websites/organisations/whatever where I can apply and get work experience? Because I do not live permanently in England (I'm in a boarding school) and there is no way that they will let me work in a hospital or medical related institution in Poland... that's why I am searching for any way I could work and get place to live at the same time? Please, if you know something, let me know. I'm turning 18 next year, so age is not a problem.

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Hey guys.

So i just finished my semester 1 exams and the syllabus I've covered for all my subjects is pretty meagre.

That being said when should i give my BMAT/UKCAT,considering my date for applying is 15th Oct.
Also, is it feasible to give both?

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Hi!

I am considering to apply for medicine in the UK, and I found this post very helpful! However, I have one question about the "problem based learning". Does anyone know any universities with LOW PBL?? (except Oxford, Cambridge, UCL and Imperial i.e. those mentioned by Sandwich)  I am the person who likes to know the facts before getting into "deep water", therefore I want to apply to universities with low PBL. Thank you! 

Cheers, Balázs

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Hi, I want to apply the medical school in UK. I am just 17 years old after getting the diploma, so do they accept international students defer applying and do a gap year?

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Hello !

 

Im kinda having a dilemma right now, so, I am taking HL chem and physics atm.  

I was just wondering if universities at all flexible with entry classes. or do i have to take bio.

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Chances are if the university has said that Biology is a requirement you'll need to be taking it. Of course, you can try and contact the university and find out if they'll allow any lenience but personally I'm doubtful. No harm in asking them though!

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Hi guys, is predicted like about 43 with 776 in HL bio, chem and math good enough for Oxford? I know that they require 39 with 766 but I don't really trust the fact that applicants with that score are considered further (if their BMAT, PS and reference is good enough for Oxford etc.). I know that this is relative it depends on how good you are compared to other people, and I have heard so many times that it is very competitive so the only thing I would like to know is whether I should even try.

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On 23/09/2017 at 0:56 AM, Nemo said:

Hi guys, is predicted like about 43 with 776 in HL bio, chem and math good enough for Oxford? I know that they require 39 with 766 but I don't really trust the fact that applicants with that score are considered further (if their BMAT, PS and reference is good enough for Oxford etc.). I know that this is relative it depends on how good you are compared to other people, and I have heard so many times that it is very competitive so the only thing I would like to know is whether I should even try.

If you meet the entry requirements, then your grades are good enough. Oxford looks at your whole application, so the grades are not the only thing that matters. E.g. I had 42 predicted, but my offer for Law at Oxford was still 39, which is their most basic requirement. 

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