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Recently it's been found that pornography is addicting and there are also a bunch of porn addiction forums and such such as Reddit's No Fap which are becoming famous. Do you believe the negative effects of porn on society are too much and that governments should restrict porn? Apparently porn is illegal for children in many countries yet porn is hardly a simple type and enter away. Should porn be regulated just like other demerit goods like alcohol?

Or do you believe that pornography is harmless and isn't causing any problems? In that case, do you think that porn addiction is more of a bad habit more than anything else?

I believe that governments should restrict porn on the internet by first making sure it's not free so that it requires a credit card to access these sites. I think porn clearly shows a degrading moral standards of societies and that it does cause many problems. I am curious as to what others think.

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Recently it's been found that pornography is addicting and there are also a bunch of porn addiction forums and such such as Reddit's No Fap which are becoming famous. Do you believe the negative effects of porn on society are too much and that governments should restrict porn? Apparently porn is illegal for children in many countries yet porn is hardly a simple type and enter away. Should porn be regulated just like other demerit goods like alcohol?

Or do you believe that pornography is harmless and isn't causing any problems? In that case, do you think that porn addiction is more of a bad habit more than anything else?

I believe that governments should restrict porn on the internet by first making sure it's not free so that it requires a credit card to access these sites. I think porn clearly shows a degrading moral standards of societies and that it does cause many problems. I am curious as to what others think.

I think some forms of pornography should be heavily regulated like child porn. Especially violent child porn. There have been enough cases of child molesters who go on to commit horrendous crimes mimicking the material they see. I'm not saying ALL child molesters have watched some, but I just feel it's too easy to access this kind of material.

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No. Stuff like CP already is banned (since it's illegal). The legal stuff shouldn't be banned by internet providers since it isn't the job of the government to parent children to that extent. Plus, underage teens are just going to us proxy servers to get round it.

Normal pornography are just films with naked people in them.

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No. There are better things to monitor/regulate than porn. Most people will find a way to get around any kind of ban a website or government puts out anyways.

Besides, a ban on porn will probably make a lot of horny men quite displeased, and I can't give my significant other that kind of attention all the time.

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No. Stuff like CP already is banned (since it's illegal). The legal stuff shouldn't be banned by internet providers since it isn't the job of the government to parent children to that extent. Plus, underage teens are just going to us proxy servers to get round it.

Normal pornography are just films with naked people in them.

It's illegal but still easily accessible, one can simply google keywords and get on with life. It's not regulated nearly as much as it should be. There should be some kind of block on certain kinds of searches.

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No. Stuff like CP already is banned (since it's illegal). The legal stuff shouldn't be banned by internet providers since it isn't the job of the government to parent children to that extent. Plus, underage teens are just going to us proxy servers to get round it.

Normal pornography are just films with naked people in them.

It's illegal but still easily accessible, one can simply google keywords and get on with life. It's not regulated nearly as much as it should be. There should be some kind of block on certain kinds of searches.

Right, this stuff will sound weird. But you can't really get CP through Google. Unless you've tried and it's worked. If there's a block on thepiratebay through google, I strongly doubt you'll get thousands of links for CP through it.

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No. Stuff like CP already is banned (since it's illegal). The legal stuff shouldn't be banned by internet providers since it isn't the job of the government to parent children to that extent. Plus, underage teens are just going to us proxy servers to get round it.

Normal pornography are just films with naked people in them.

It's illegal but still easily accessible, one can simply google keywords and get on with life. It's not regulated nearly as much as it should be. There should be some kind of block on certain kinds of searches.

Right, this stuff will sound weird. But you can't really get CP through Google. Unless you've tried and it's worked. If there's a block on thepiratebay through google, I strongly doubt you'll get thousands of links for CP through it.

This is progress, Stuart Hazell of the Tia Sharp case and Mark Briger of the April Jones case were able to google CP but this was August and October 2012.

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Well, they can't even if they want to (considering that access to porn is quite easy) and they shouldn't. Demerit goods(too much microeconomics?) make life enjoyable, smoking, drinking etc and watching porn is any human's right. Except for child porn. Besides, porn is the only leisure of Turkish males.

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It's kind of annoying how the society's morals are interfering with the society's ability to infer. "Child porn" leads to child rapists and sadists, true, but what have "regular" pornography types been doing to our society? Most rapes nowadays are caused by an already-heavy porn addiction. In comparison to child porn/child molesters, "normal" porn/adult rapists have a much more positive correlation. So just because child porn is unethical to the society, it should be banned, while banning "regular" porn is a breach of human rights?

I do agree, however, banning porn once at for all is too brusque a law. The government should do something about its proliferation, though, like what they do on the cover of most cigarette packets. If a guy is entering a porn website he would have to see a statement "Porn has been proven to be highly addictive, a cause of social anxiety, ADHD, erectile dysfunction, and many other issues. Are you sure you would want to enter this?"

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It's kind of annoying how the society's morals are interfering with the society's ability to infer. "Child porn" leads to child rapists and sadists, true, but what have "regular" pornography types been doing to our society? Most rapes nowadays are caused by an already-heavy porn addiction. In comparison to child porn/child molesters, "normal" porn/adult rapists have a much more positive correlation. So just because child porn is unethical to the society, it should be banned, while banning "regular" porn is a breach of human rights?

I do agree, however, banning porn once at for all is too brusque a law. The government should do something about its proliferation, though, like what they do on the cover of most cigarette packets. If a guy is entering a porn website he would have to see a statement "Porn has been proven to be highly addictive, a cause of social anxiety, ADHD, erectile dysfunction, and many other issues. Are you sure you would want to enter this?"

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Child porn is banned because you're ****ing a child. Not because it causes rapes.

Frankly, your second paragraph is more idiotic than the first. Lots of people regularly watch porn without a problem. You want to start sticking warnings on everything? Why don't we just discourage people from driving, lifting heavy weights, etc.

In fact, why not close down every casino and club you see? That way people will be safer right?

It is a select minority that causes all the problems. It is much smarter to deal with THEM specifically, than to label an entire industry as "dangerous".

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I think what is needed is education about the ill effects of excessive exposure to pornography, the effect on young people's brains by having fapped to porn regularly from a young age, how it could affect their future relationships, their ability to be intimate, cause them to have a predilection to violent/abnormal sex, etc. Once the individual has been educated of the risks involved, if he/she chooses to go out and use porn, well that is his/her business. It is not the responsibility of government, nor anyone else, to save someone from himself/herself. We are (presumably) autonomous people in an autonomous society, in the age of the internet no information is impossible to find, we have and should continue to have the freedom to make informed choices.

Of course it goes without saying that child/non-consensual sex-based porn should be banned unquestionably.

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It's kind of annoying how the society's morals are interfering with the society's ability to infer. "Child porn" leads to child rapists and sadists, true, but what have "regular" pornography types been doing to our society? Most rapes nowadays are caused by an already-heavy porn addiction. In comparison to child porn/child molesters, "normal" porn/adult rapists have a much more positive correlation. So just because child porn is unethical to the society, it should be banned, while banning "regular" porn is a breach of human rights?

I do agree, however, banning porn once at for all is too brusque a law. The government should do something about its proliferation, though, like what they do on the cover of most cigarette packets. If a guy is entering a porn website he would have to see a statement "Porn has been proven to be highly addictive, a cause of social anxiety, ADHD, erectile dysfunction, and many other issues. Are you sure you would want to enter this?"

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Child porn is banned because you're ****ing a child. Not because it causes rapes.

Frankly, your second paragraph is more idiotic than the first. Lots of people regularly watch porn without a problem. You want to start sticking warnings on everything? Why don't we just discourage people from driving, lifting heavy weights, etc.

In fact, why not close down every casino and club you see? That way people will be safer right?

It is a select minority that causes all the problems. It is much smarter to deal with THEM specifically, than to label an entire industry as "dangerous".

You are underestimating the effects of pornography. I suggest you to research on the subject before talking to me about it. Just connubial wise, ore than 50% of divorce these days are caused by porn-related problems such as ED, PIED, inhibited desires toward actual sex, etc. I don't see how you can compare driving and lifting heavy weights to marriages.

Yes, there is a huge difference between cp and regular p, but just because it feels morally depraving to **** a child, means it's ok to **** a woman? Is that what you denote?

And about "every casino and club", if porn can be regulated like casinos and clubs, sure, but is porn properly regulated? Modern-day children start watching porn at the age of 10. I don't think casinos and clubs allow people to go in without any identification of age.

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It's kind of annoying how the society's morals are interfering with the society's ability to infer. "Child porn" leads to child rapists and sadists, true, but what have "regular" pornography types been doing to our society? Most rapes nowadays are caused by an already-heavy porn addiction. In comparison to child porn/child molesters, "normal" porn/adult rapists have a much more positive correlation. So just because child porn is unethical to the society, it should be banned, while banning "regular" porn is a breach of human rights?

I do agree, however, banning porn once at for all is too brusque a law. The government should do something about its proliferation, though, like what they do on the cover of most cigarette packets. If a guy is entering a porn website he would have to see a statement "Porn has been proven to be highly addictive, a cause of social anxiety, ADHD, erectile dysfunction, and many other issues. Are you sure you would want to enter this?"

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Child porn is banned because you're ****ing a child. Not because it causes rapes.

Frankly, your second paragraph is more idiotic than the first. Lots of people regularly watch porn without a problem. You want to start sticking warnings on everything? Why don't we just discourage people from driving, lifting heavy weights, etc.

In fact, why not close down every casino and club you see? That way people will be safer right?

It is a select minority that causes all the problems. It is much smarter to deal with THEM specifically, than to label an entire industry as "dangerous".

It's only a minority of smokers who get lung cancer. Why not deal specifically with them, instead branding the entire smoking industry as "dangerous"?

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It's kind of annoying how the society's morals are interfering with the society's ability to infer. "Child porn" leads to child rapists and sadists, true, but what have "regular" pornography types been doing to our society? Most rapes nowadays are caused by an already-heavy porn addiction. In comparison to child porn/child molesters, "normal" porn/adult rapists have a much more positive correlation. So just because child porn is unethical to the society, it should be banned, while banning "regular" porn is a breach of human rights?

I do agree, however, banning porn once at for all is too brusque a law. The government should do something about its proliferation, though, like what they do on the cover of most cigarette packets. If a guy is entering a porn website he would have to see a statement "Porn has been proven to be highly addictive, a cause of social anxiety, ADHD, erectile dysfunction, and many other issues. Are you sure you would want to enter this?"

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Child porn is banned because you're ****ing a child. Not because it causes rapes.

Frankly, your second paragraph is more idiotic than the first. Lots of people regularly watch porn without a problem. You want to start sticking warnings on everything? Why don't we just discourage people from driving, lifting heavy weights, etc.

In fact, why not close down every casino and club you see? That way people will be safer right?

It is a select minority that causes all the problems. It is much smarter to deal with THEM specifically, than to label an entire industry as "dangerous".

You are underestimating the effects of pornography. I suggest you to research on the subject before talking to me about it. Just connubial wise, ore than 50% of divorce these days are caused by porn-related problems such as ED, PIED, inhibited desires toward actual sex, etc. I don't see how you can compare driving and lifting heavy weights to marriages.

Yes, there is a huge difference between cp and regular p, but just because it feels morally depraving to **** a child, means it's ok to **** a woman? Is that what you denote?

And about "every casino and club", if porn can be regulated like casinos and clubs, sure, but is porn properly regulated? Modern-day children start watching porn at the age of 10. I don't think casinos and clubs allow people to go in without any identification of age.

Well, having a sexual intercourse with a child is illegal, whereas it is not illegal to have a sexual intercourse with a an adult woman. So yeah, it is ok to have sex with a woman and it is not ok to have sex with a child. Sex is a natural, healthy part of most relationships and there is nothing wrong about it.

I don't exactly see why porn is any different to anything else. Some get addicted to alcohol, some drink it in moderation and enjoy it, some people get addicted to cigarettes, others have one every few months when on a night out, some get addicted to gambling, some just play roulette once a year on holiday in Monaco. We can't ban porn just because some people get addicted to it. Alcoholism has a bad effect on family, relationships, all that jazz, and I somehow can't see it being banned any time soon. I guess we all remember how well prohibition worked in the US.

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It's kind of annoying how the society's morals are interfering with the society's ability to infer. "Child porn" leads to child rapists and sadists, true, but what have "regular" pornography types been doing to our society? Most rapes nowadays are caused by an already-heavy porn addiction. In comparison to child porn/child molesters, "normal" porn/adult rapists have a much more positive correlation. So just because child porn is unethical to the society, it should be banned, while banning "regular" porn is a breach of human rights?

I do agree, however, banning porn once at for all is too brusque a law. The government should do something about its proliferation, though, like what they do on the cover of most cigarette packets. If a guy is entering a porn website he would have to see a statement "Porn has been proven to be highly addictive, a cause of social anxiety, ADHD, erectile dysfunction, and many other issues. Are you sure you would want to enter this?"

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Child porn is banned because you're ****ing a child. Not because it causes rapes.

Frankly, your second paragraph is more idiotic than the first. Lots of people regularly watch porn without a problem. You want to start sticking warnings on everything? Why don't we just discourage people from driving, lifting heavy weights, etc.

In fact, why not close down every casino and club you see? That way people will be safer right?

It is a select minority that causes all the problems. It is much smarter to deal with THEM specifically, than to label an entire industry as "dangerous".

You are underestimating the effects of pornography. I suggest you to research on the subject before talking to me about it. Just connubial wise, ore than 50% of divorce these days are caused by porn-related problems such as ED, PIED, inhibited desires toward actual sex, etc. I don't see how you can compare driving and lifting heavy weights to marriages.

Yes, there is a huge difference between cp and regular p, but just because it feels morally depraving to **** a child, means it's ok to **** a woman? Is that what you denote?

And about "every casino and club", if porn can be regulated like casinos and clubs, sure, but is porn properly regulated? Modern-day children start watching porn at the age of 10. I don't think casinos and clubs allow people to go in without any identification of age.

Well, having a sexual intercourse with a child is illegal, whereas it is not illegal to have a sexual intercourse with a an adult woman. So yeah, it is ok to have sex with a woman and it is not ok to have sex with a child. Sex is a natural, healthy part of most relationships and there is nothing wrong about it.

I don't exactly see why porn is any different to anything else. Some get addicted to alcohol, some drink it in moderation and enjoy it, some people get addicted to cigarettes, others have one every few months when on a night out, some get addicted to gambling, some just play roulette once a year on holiday in Monaco. We can't ban porn just because some people get addicted to it. Alcoholism has a bad effect on family, relationships, all that jazz, and I somehow can't see it being banned any time soon. I guess we all remember how well prohibition worked in the US.

It's not just some people. I suggest you go watch a TED video called The Great Porn Experiment, which basically describes an experiment sociologists conducted upon college students on pornography. They actually couldn't find a control group of students as they couldn't find any guy who doesn't watch porn. Porn itself is not like alcohol and gambling at all. I would go as far as to say it's the new opium of today.

In fact, I would challenge any guy here who thinks they watch porn "Only in moderation" to go off it entire for 50 days. If you can do it, I take what I said back.

PS As for the **** part, I thought he meant to say rape...Sorry about that.

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It's kind of annoying how the society's morals are interfering with the society's ability to infer. "Child porn" leads to child rapists and sadists, true, but what have "regular" pornography types been doing to our society? Most rapes nowadays are caused by an already-heavy porn addiction. In comparison to child porn/child molesters, "normal" porn/adult rapists have a much more positive correlation. So just because child porn is unethical to the society, it should be banned, while banning "regular" porn is a breach of human rights?

I do agree, however, banning porn once at for all is too brusque a law. The government should do something about its proliferation, though, like what they do on the cover of most cigarette packets. If a guy is entering a porn website he would have to see a statement "Porn has been proven to be highly addictive, a cause of social anxiety, ADHD, erectile dysfunction, and many other issues. Are you sure you would want to enter this?"

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Child porn is banned because you're ****ing a child. Not because it causes rapes.

Frankly, your second paragraph is more idiotic than the first. Lots of people regularly watch porn without a problem. You want to start sticking warnings on everything? Why don't we just discourage people from driving, lifting heavy weights, etc.

In fact, why not close down every casino and club you see? That way people will be safer right?

It is a select minority that causes all the problems. It is much smarter to deal with THEM specifically, than to label an entire industry as "dangerous".

You are underestimating the effects of pornography. I suggest you to research on the subject before talking to me about it. Just connubial wise, ore than 50% of divorce these days are caused by porn-related problems such as ED, PIED, inhibited desires toward actual sex, etc. I don't see how you can compare driving and lifting heavy weights to marriages.

Yes, there is a huge difference between cp and regular p, but just because it feels morally depraving to **** a child, means it's ok to **** a woman? Is that what you denote?

And about "every casino and club", if porn can be regulated like casinos and clubs, sure, but is porn properly regulated? Modern-day children start watching porn at the age of 10. I don't think casinos and clubs allow people to go in without any identification of age.

Well, having a sexual intercourse with a child is illegal, whereas it is not illegal to have a sexual intercourse with a an adult woman. So yeah, it is ok to have sex with a woman and it is not ok to have sex with a child. Sex is a natural, healthy part of most relationships and there is nothing wrong about it.

I don't exactly see why porn is any different to anything else. Some get addicted to alcohol, some drink it in moderation and enjoy it, some people get addicted to cigarettes, others have one every few months when on a night out, some get addicted to gambling, some just play roulette once a year on holiday in Monaco. We can't ban porn just because some people get addicted to it. Alcoholism has a bad effect on family, relationships, all that jazz, and I somehow can't see it being banned any time soon. I guess we all remember how well prohibition worked in the US.

And I don't see how you can compare it with alcohol. You can share a few drinks among friends and family. You can do all that without any moral scruple. EVEN THEN there is an age restriction.

As for porn, can you just show it around in a family meeting as a form of entertainment? Unless you grow up in an extremely licentious family that promotes such actions, I don't think you could. AND the government is doing NOTHING on the age restriction, which was what I had said. I didn't say we should ban it, but we need to warn people, especially those who are underage.

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