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Hi,

I really want to study at Cambridge, but my subjects are : Math studies, history HL, Nowegian HL, English HL, Chemistry SL, Biology SL.

I am planning on stuy law, do you think I can get into Cambridge with high enough grades even though I have math studies?

Capa.. :)

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Hmm...

Are you taking Norwegian and English both at A1? Usually Cambridge doesn't want to see people who have a ''soft'' subject like math studies for example, but then again they accept applicants who do take math studies. It depends on your overall IB grade at the end of the day more than ur subjects. But is there a possibility to take Math SL for you? I believe that would raise ur chances of gettin accepted if you can maintain your grades

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Yes I am taking both languages as A1.

This is my second year so i think it is too late to change to math SL now, however, I am only 16 still so i would not mind too much to take 1 year of another math course if that could help (after IB), but I don't know yet...

Capa...

btw. do you know approximately how many points i should aim for?

thanks...

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as high as possible obviously (45). A popular major like Law will definitely be very selective. You should really be aiming between 40-45

I didn't know you are in your second year. In that case obviously don't switch to Math SL.

Correct me if i'm wrong, but I thought Cambridge wants applicants to be at least 18 by the time of enrollment..... but then again I heard sometimes a 12 year old freak (no other way to call such human beings) gets into cambridge. I don't know you that well, you should best talk to your school counselor/adviser or IB coordinator about your chances for law at cambridge.

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Hehe,

I must admit that this so far has been a 'quiet' wish from my side. I need to know a lot more about Cambridge and other things before thinking of applying.

Thank you for the help...

Capa... :) !

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Anytime man

Don't stress about Cambridge. It's not such a great place, it's high in the rankings, sure. But students at Cambridge are not exactly the happiest students in the country, the social life gets really lame and it's full of nerds. My friend got accepted to oxford and he went out of there as soon as possible and he is now in glasgow and really happy =)

He told me that Oxford was one of the worst experiences of his life, coz there is virtually no party scene, imagine how boring it is if you are into at least ''some'' good partying... and there is none. Obviously uni shouldnt just be about partyin, but u know every student has needs

Even if I had the grades, I wouldn't even bother applying for Oxbridge. Unless you're a nerd who really enjoys sitting in the dorm on a friday/saturday/sunday almost every night studying and enjoy seeing below-average looking people around, you are not going to like Cambridge. But then again you get amazing contacts... Still not a uni for me

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I applied to Cambridge, so I'll give a slightly different viewpoint to Mark's. First of all, entry for Law means you'll have to take the LNAT test, an aptitude test of sorts. Math Studies is fine, what they really care about are your HL subjects. History and two A1s is a very good combination, as these are all subjects pertinent to Law. Depending on the college, you should aim at 7-6-6 or 7-7-6 at HL. If you know you can't get at least a 6 and one 7 in your HLs, I can tell you there is practically no chance of acceptance. Overall, you should be looking at 41-43 points (including bonus obviously).

Mark, to be honest, I have to say that the view you take on people who study in Oxbridge is very limited. Somehow you seem a bit jealous about not having the grades to go to Oxbridge. Applying there doesn't mean you are a nerd who likes to spend their time studying. I can only look at examples of people I know who go there and myself. Throughout IB, I've studied only very little and not put much effort into it. Regardless of this, I'm still ambitious enough to go to Cambridge. I know that if I get in I'll be one of those students who won't do so well but I'll still end up with a BA from Cambridge, so who cares? Now I know several people who study in Oxford (less in Cambridge). Our school has lots of the "nerds" you mentioned but also many people like me. I can honestly say that after the interviews, none of the nerds have received offers but a good percentage (well over average) of the socially normal students did end up getting offers and they now study in Oxford (mainly PPE). So what you actually might expect to meet in Cambridge is, sure, some nerds, but mostly intelligent people who also possess social skills. A university like Cambridge has the ability to choose, so they really want the social people instead of the nerds.

Have you looked at any other law schools in England? If you haven't, I suggest you take a look at LSE and Warwick, especially LSE is also a school of high reputation.

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hmmm, you people got me to think very much.. :)

I will obviously go for the highest score I can. I am NOT a kind of nerd as Mark talked about so it will be hard for me, but not impossible.

I must admit that I have heard negative things about Cambrdge before, but I dont think that was from a very serious 'source'.

I cannot imagine that Cambridge is not a great place, it is a world famous univerity and I expect and believe that such a place has a very good community - with some social activities.

After all, I am planning on studiyng - not to party, but I doubt that there are no party-people at Cambridge.

Capa...

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Mark, to be honest, I have to say that the view you take on people who study in Oxbridge is very limited. Somehow you seem a bit jealous about not having the grades to go to Oxbridge. Applying there doesn't mean you are a nerd who likes to spend their time studying. I can only look at examples of people I know who go there and myself. Throughout IB, I've studied only very little and not put much effort into it. Regardless of this, I'm still ambitious enough to go to Cambridge. I know that if I get in I'll be one of those students who won't do so well but I'll still end up with a BA from Cambridge, so who cares? Now I know several people who study in Oxford (less in Cambridge). Our school has lots of the "nerds" you mentioned but also many people like me. I can honestly say that after the interviews, none of the nerds have received offers but a good percentage (well over average) of the socially normal students did end up getting offers and they now study in Oxford (mainly PPE). So what you actually might expect to meet in Cambridge is, sure, some nerds, but mostly intelligent people who also possess social skills. A university like Cambridge has the ability to choose, so they really want the social people instead of the nerds.

I'm not jealous; I am not applying for Oxbridge anyhow although I have chances of being at least considered. Simply Oxbridge wouldn't be the greatest fit for me from what i've heared from people who went there. Oxbridge is not neccessarily heaven as many believe it to be, though it can be heaven for some people if you're into the Oxbridge style. I'm not saying Oxbridge sucks, but it's too overated in my opinion. Many people (obviously not all) think of Oxbridge as some kind of paradise, it may have a great reputation and great professors and such, but it's not the best fit for everyone in the world.

Btw, how can you possibly say that you didn't put ''much effort'' into IB íf you really are predicted the grades that are shown under your comments? Only students at my school who work like hell get these kind of predicted grades...

hmmm, you people got me to think very much.. XD

I will obviously go for the highest score I can. I am NOT a kind of nerd as Mark talked about so it will be hard for me, but not impossible.

I must admit that I have heard negative things about Cambrdge before, but I dont think that was from a very serious 'source'.

I cannot imagine that Cambridge is not a great place, it is a world famous univerity and I expect and believe that such a place has a very good community - with some social activities.

After all, I am planning on studiyng - not to party, but I doubt that there are no party-people at Cambridge.

Capa...

Of course you should go to Cambridge if you like the kind of atmosphere and get accepted. I didn't try to discourage you from Cambridge; I don't even know you personally. I meant that if you don't get into Cambridge then don't sweat it; it's really not all that joy-paradise that many people think it is. Cambridge is definitely a great place, but it's definitely not the ''best'' (i'm implying that there is no ''best'' place in general, but there are ''best'' places for each applicant)

Best of luck in getting in for both of you!

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I'm not jealous; I am not applying for Oxbridge anyhow although I have chances of being at least considered. Simply Oxbridge wouldn't be the greatest fit for me from what i've heared from people who went there. Oxbridge is not neccessarily heaven as many believe it to be, though it can be heaven for some people if you're into the Oxbridge style. I'm not saying Oxbridge sucks, but it's too overated in my opinion. Many people (obviously not all) think of Oxbridge as some kind of paradise, it may have a great reputation and great professors and such, but it's not the best fit for everyone in the world.

Btw, how can you possibly say that you didn't put ''much effort'' into IB íf you really are predicted the grades that are shown under your comments? Only students at my school who work like hell get these kind of predicted grades...

Well, I have to say, I do disagree with you about the lifestyle part XD . But we can agree to disagree here, both of us only really can refer to hearsay, since we don't study there :) . About the predicteds, with my subjects, it really doesn't involve any effort A1 Finnish & A2 English is a joke, Economics doesn't require studying, I'm done with Swedish (7) and Math is easy for me. Physics would require effort but I can't be arsed to study for it :) . If I would do HL sciences, I know I'd have predicteds around 35 so it really is nothing special...

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You don't need to be a nerd. But you do need to spend lots of time in front of the computer. And you would have to know how to study smart, not purely study hard.

Supporting Mark's point, be sure oxbridge is a good fit for you before you apply, visit it if you can to see if it is really what you think it is.

Supporting Deissi's point, if you took an ab initio language, maths studies, environmental systems instead of A2, higher level mathematics and sciences, I am sure your total IB grade would be much higher. In this case Deissi might just be naturally talented at languages and economics.

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According to timesonline, Oxbridge is one of the top 20 favourite universities of students, so...

Neverthless, choose the university that's right for you. I wanted to apply for Oxford but I haven't find a particular course that wowed me, nor did I have the right predicted grades. Neverthless, if you want to go to cambridge, go for it, it will certainly pay off in your later life. Who wouldn't want to hire a Cambridge graduate?

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hmm im not aiming for cambridge but my advice to you since you take math studies and since it is considered a soft subject try to obtain a 7 but then again try to obtain a 7 in every subject. One of the girls in my spanish Intio class got an interview with cambridge and she takes spanish intio and as far as i know it is considered a soft subject, therefore i suggest go for it. You woulnt want to be wrapped in wonder if you didnt try.

Oh yes write your personal statement as if your "selling your life".

i hope it helps

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Ok, thank you very much for your advice.

I can't imagine that I will be able to gain a 7 in every subject because I am not that bright.

However, I will do my best for for sure... and then see how far I can reach.

I, together with the rest of my class, feel that chemistry is the hardest subject and it is not looking too good. Right now, I would be happy to get a 5 in chemistry, which obviously is very bad. This will of course not take me into Cambridge, Oxford, Harvard or any other top university... Right now I am just focusing on completing my EE by wednesday and then do the best I can in the rest of my subjects.

A realistic score for me right now I think would look something like this:

Math stud: 6/7

Chem SL: 4

Bio SL: 5/6

His HL: 6/7

Eng HL: 7

Norwegian HL:7

EE+ToK : 1/2

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Chem SL: 4

I took my IB SL Chemistry exam last year and it wasn't actually that bad. I crammed for it in the last week or so and pulled off a 7. Paper 1 should be relatively simple to pull off. There are only so many questions they can give you, so if you keep doing past papers you'll learn to actually recognize the questions and you'll know how to do it. Papers 2 + 3 are a little harder, but the same principle is behind it. I think nearly a quarter of my Paper 3 I'd seen word for word when I was doing the past year papers. I know this won't help you with the application process, but you could also consider taking a gap year and applying with your actual scores if you think you could pull them up enough?

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I took my IB SL Chemistry exam last year and it wasn't actually that bad. I crammed for it in the last week or so and pulled off a 7. Paper 1 should be relatively simple to pull off. There are only so many questions they can give you, so if you keep doing past papers you'll learn to actually recognize the questions and you'll know how to do it. Papers 2 + 3 are a little harder, but the same principle is behind it. I think nearly a quarter of my Paper 3 I'd seen word for word when I was doing the past year papers. I know this won't help you with the application process, but you could also consider taking a gap year and applying with your actual scores if you think you could pull them up enough?

Thank you for the advice,

I am working a lot on chemistry and I will try to get something better than 4.

I am actually thinking about a gap year to either imrove my exam grades or use the real grades as you suggested.

Paper 3 I feel pretty confident on, because the topics seem to be easier. Paper 2 is clearly the hardest for me, and even with a lot of exam questions to practise on, I (and my whole class) feel not very confident, but i will keep practising and we will see how it goes ;)

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